Группа "Б"

[Slavik]

Сообщение от Advance Racing

А если по правде говоря, потому что популярность Группы Б была выше чем у первой формулы

а можно поподробней?

[Advance Racing]

Подробней? Та же Португалия собирала более миллиона зрителей, в то время когда этапы первой формулы не более 50-ти тысяч.

[Advance Racing]

Да и мировые автопроизводители разбежались либо в Спортпрототипы, либо в группу Б

Заводские команды в ралли с 81 по 86 год
Renault Sport Elf
Fiat Auto Torino
Team Datsun Europe
Audi Sport
Toyota Team Europe
Talbot Sport (Peugeot Talbot Sport)
Rothmans Opel Rally Team
Mazda Rally Team Europe
Saab Sport
Nissan Motorsports Europe
Martini Lancia
Mitsubishi Team Ralliart
Volkswagen Motorsport Team
Citroën Competition
Rothmans Porsche Rally Team
Austin Rover World Championship Team
Ford Motor Co
Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru)

Чемпионат мира по спортпрототипам (Группа С)

Rothmans Porsche
Martini Racing
TWR Jaguar (Silk Cut Jaguar)
Mazdaspeed
Team Sauber Mercedes
Nissan Motorsports International
Toyota Team Tom's
Peugeot Talbot Sport

А в формуле на тот момент кроме Хонды, Рено и вечной Феррари никого не осталось. Даже Альфа кинулась строить свой прототип в группе С

[madlopt]

Сообщение от Advance Racing

Подробней? Та же Португалия собирала более миллиона зрителей, в то время когда этапы первой формулы не более 50-ти тысяч.

Ну дык соревнования совсем другого типа. Если бы Ф1 была в 10 раз популярнее, она бы технически не смогла бы собрать столько на одном этапе. В начале века в США гонки собирали тоже миллион, но тогда это было уникально, вроде полёта в космос.

[Ligier]

Интересная статистика

[Ligier]

Для зрителя который приходит посмотреть, ралли будет в любом случаи интереснее.
Ведь во время тех безумных "коридоров" из людей было намного интереснее так близко стоять, чем смотреть Ф1 с трибун.

[madlopt]

Если взять городские гонки и гонки на автодромах, то статистика будет в пользо городских, т.к. они фактически проходят в большом скоплении людей, просто потому что они там живут и могут вполне не знать, что тут происходит, а просто сидеть и смотреть, попивая пеффко, вот и в Ралли местное население привлекает прежде всего зрелище, никто ж не заставляет покупать билеты на трибуны, добираться никуда не надо, свежий воздух...конечно есть фанаты, но таких меньшенство.

[Slavik]

Число зрителей на этапах далеко не единственный критерий популярности.
Тем более опять, сравниваем несравнимое, как верно указал мадлопт. Посещаемость события с открытым доступом для зрителей, в местах непосредственного проживания этих самых зрителей и посещение закрытого стадиона.
Это как сравнить число зрителей на выступлении Арии на опен-эйр, и Metallica в закрытом клубе и на этом основании делать вывод о популярности.
Про разбежавшихся производителей посмеялся. Можно подумать, в 70-х в Ф1 одни сплошные производители участвовали:
Fiat, datsun, audi, toyota, opel, mazda, saab, nissan, lancia, mitsubishi, vw, citroen, porsche, rover, subaru. ford, jaguar, mercedes, peugeot, а потом резко разбежались. А может ралли и Ф1 немного различаются в этом плане? Что ралли всегда было спортом автопроизводителей, в отличии от Ф1? Что в Ф1 даже сейчас заводские монстры типа тойоты бессильны против частных команд с ограниченным бюджетом? Что опен-вилз - это совсем другая песня?

Даже Альфа... А что, альфа была серьезным игроком в мире Ф1. На "гребне успеха" в Ф1 бросилась в группу С?

[Advance Racing]

Тоже между прочим группа Б


А что до производителей. То с точки зрения рекламы - ФИА было заинтересовано в привлечении крупных инвестиций в спорт, а производители тестировали новинки в ралли и на прототипах

[Александр]

Сообщение от Jacky

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dQOAs1PbJWA

Пежо в Пайкс Пик. Смертники блин, что гонщики, что зрители...

Посмотрел - обалдел! Смотреть жутко, а ехать, даже не знаю... Наверное, я бы помер от инфаркта, если б рядом с Ватаненом в той же машине ехал. А зеваки, которые стоят между пролетающей машиной и обрывом - ну, это вообще, смертнички!!! Я в шоке. Ролик просто класс. интересно, это просто рекламный ролик или есть фильм такой?

[Advance Racing]

Еще один уникальный представитель Группы Б

[Advance Racing]

Жаль что дальше редких стартов, благодаря региональным дилерам Феррари, дело не зашло. А машинка получилась удачная. Даже одну гонку выйграла

[Advance Racing]

Фиат 131 - автомобиль, которому до прихода Ауди не было равных. Стал прототипом нашей Лады ВФТС

[Advance Racing]

Лада ВФТС

[madlopt]

Сообщение от Jacky

http://youtube.com/watch?v=dQOAs1PbJWA

Пежо в Пайкс Пик. Смертники блин, что гонщики, что зрители...

Это просто анриал! Ехать на машине свыше 1000 л.с. на такой высоте, без ограждений, по такой узкой дороге ещё и ручкой прикрывать глаза от слепящего солнца...

[Advance Racing]

Сообщение от madlopt

Это просто анриал! Ехать на машине свыше 1000 л.с. на такой высоте, без ограждений, по такой узкой дороге ещё и ручкой прикрывать глаза от слепящего солнца...

не было там 1000 сил
Кроме того перед Пайкс Пик проходят 2 недели тренировок, так что эта трасса заучивается до миллиметра

[Ligier]

Сообщение от Advance Racing

Тоже между прочим группа Б

Разве?
Стратос был до группы Б...

[Advance Racing]

в 80-м году ФИА приняло решение назвать группу 4 - группой Б-12 итд
Технические требования никто не менял.
Так что автомобили подготовленные по группе 4 - стали группами Б11 и 12, в зависимости от наличия турбины

[Ligier]

Да?
Я конечно точно не знаю, но с появлением группы Б регламент должен был сильно изменится.
Им типо нужно было поднять популярность ралли, и разрешили до неприличия много менять в конструкции машин.
Ну и получилось собственно машины "слишком быстрые что-бы гоняться"

[Advance Racing]

The Group B referred to a set of regulations for competition vehicles in sportscar racing and rally racing regulated by the FIA. Group B was introduced by the FIA in 1982 as replacement for both Group 4 (modified grand
touring) and Group 5 (touring prototypes) cars.

[Ligier]

Там написано что она только заменила Группу 4.

[Advance Racing]

Ща блин техтребования выложу, раз такой дотошный

[Advance Racing]

1) DEFlNlTlON
Sports Grand Touring Cars.
2) HOMOLOGATION
At least 200 identical units (minimum 2 seats) of these cars must have
been built in 12 consecutive months.
3) FITTINGS AND MODIFICATIONS ALLOWED
All those allowed for Touring Cars (Gr. A) with the following modifications.
4) WEIGHT
Touring Cars (Gr. A) Cars are subjected to the following minimum weight
Scale in relation to their cubic capacity.
up to 1,000 cm3 : 580 kg
1,300 cm3 : 675 kg
1,600 cm3 : 750 kg
2,000 cm3 : 820 kg
2,500 cm3 : 890 kg
3,000 cm3 : 960 kg
4,000 cm3 : 1 ,l 00 kg
5,000 cm3 : 1,235 kg
over 5,000 cm3 : 1,300 kg
Appendix "D- Qroupe C7 Prototype Regulations
5) WHEELS AND TYRES
Same text as for Touring Cars (Gr. A), (Art. 5.4) except for the rim diameter
(in rallies on1 ) and the maximum widths.
The total o Y the widths of two rim-tyre assemblies on the same side of the
car must be less thqn or equal to:
up to 1,000 cm3 : 16"
1,300 cm3 : 17"
1,600 cm3 : 18"
2,000 cm3 : 20"
3,000.cm3 : 22"
4,000 cm3 : 24"
5,000 cm3 : 26"
over 5,000 cm3 : 28"
In rallies: the rim diameter cannot exceed 16" (or 415 mm for metric dimensions).

[madlopt]

Сообщение от Advance Racing

не было там 1000 сил

Да, поверил комментам к клипу. 205я имела 500 сил, а 405?

Сообщение от Advance Racing

Кроме того перед Пайкс Пик проходят 2 недели тренировок, так что эта трасса заучивается до миллиметра

Ну да, нефиг делать вообще, любой лох так бы прокатился. Всего-то, заучить до миллиметра, зная что тебя отделяет миллиметр от смерти, а едешь ты в гробу.

[Advance Racing]

Сообщение от madlopt

Да, поверил комментам к клипу. 205я имела 500 сил, а 405?



Ну да, нефиг делать вообще, любой лох так бы прокатился. Всего-то, заучить до миллиметра, зная что тебя отделяет миллиметр от смерти, а едешь ты в гробу.

Леш у нас такое же в Туапсе, Сочи и на Байкале проводят и неплохо без штурманов все обходятся. А на Солох-Ауле если что метров 70 лететь

[Ligier]

Сообщение от Advance Racing

Ща блин техтребования выложу, раз такой дотошный

Да не в том дело что дотошный
Если остался тот же регламент, тот как машины превратились в этих монстров

[Advance Racing]

Appendix J
to the Internationall Sporting Code 1971
Classification, definition and specifications of ears
Specifications in italics are interpretations or explanations given by the CS1 since
the introduction of the present Appendix "J" in 1966
TITLE I
CLASSiFlCATlON OF CARS
Art. 251.-Categories and groups: cars competing in events shall be distributed
into the following categories and groups:
Category A: recognized production cars (numbers between brackets are
those of the required minimum production in 12 consecutive months).
- Group 1 : series-production touring cars (5,000). - Group 2 : speeial touring cars (1,000).
- Group 3 : series-production grand touring cars (1,000). - Group 4 : special grand touring cars (500).
- Group 5 : sports cars (25).
Category B : experimental competition cars. - Group 6 : prototype-sports cars.
Category C: racing cars. - Group 7 : two-seater racing cars. - Group 8 : formula racing cars. - Group 9 : formula libre racino cars.
TITLE II
DEFIN1TIONS AND GENERAL PRESCRlPTlONS
Art. 252.-Definitions a) Recognized production cars: cars of which the
series-production of a.certain number of identical (see definition of this word
hereafter) cars, has been completed within a certain period of time, and which
are meant for the normal sale (see below) to the individual purchaser. This period
of time is of 12 consecutive months. The checking of the existing minimum
production enables the ACN to apply to the FIA for recognition (see this word
below).
b) Experimental competition cars: cars which have nothing or which have
no more to do with a series-production vehicle, either that only one of the type has
been built, or that the number of units which has been built is inferior to what is
required for the group for which the minimum number of units annually produced
is the smallest, or that although they originate from a series-production car, they
have been modified or equipped with new accessories to the point that their
series-production nature has been lost.
c) Racing cars: cars manufactured solely for speed races on a circuit or a
closed course. These cars are generally defined by the international racing
formulae the specifications of which are fixed by the FIA for a certain period of
time. Racing cars not being defined by any international formula are said to be
"formule libre" and their specifications must in that case be set out in the
supplementary regulations of the event.
d) Identical: by "identical" cars are meant cars belonging to one and the
same fabrication series and which have the same coachwork(outside and inside),
same mechanical components and same chassis (even though this chassis may
be amalgamated with the coachwork in case of a unitary construction).
"Mechanical components" include all parts for the propulsion, suspension,
steering and braking system and all accessories whether moving or not which
are necessary for their normal functioning (such as for instance, electric accessories).
By chassis is meant the structure of the car which holds mechanical components
and coachwork together, and includes any structural part which is
located below the horizonta! plane passing through the centre of the wheel hubs.
e) Minimum production: this minimum production, different for each group
of cars, applies to cars which are identical, the manufacturing of which has been
fully completed within a period of 12 consecutive months.
By "minimum serjes" should be understood only a number of entirely finished
cars, eg, cars in running condition and ready for delivery to the purchasers.
f) Normal sale: means the distribution of cars to individual purchasers
through the normal commercial channels of the manufacturer.
,g) Recognition: is the official certification made by the FIA that a minimum
number of cars of a specific model has been made on series-production terms
to justify classification in group 1,2,3,4, or 5 of these regulations. Application for
recognition shall be submitted to the FIA by the ACN of the country in which
the vehicle is manufactured and shall entail the drawing up of a recognition form
(see below). It must be established in accordance with the special regulations,
called "Regulations for Recognition", laid down by the FIA, and a manufacturer
wishing to obtain the recognition of his modet(s) must undertake to abide by
their prescriptions. Recognition will only be granted to car-models which were
still in production on 1st January 1969 or the production of which was started
after that date. Recognition of a series-produced car will become void 4 years
after the date on which the series-production of the said model has been stopped.
Recognition of a model may only be valid for one group. The transferring of a
previously recognized model from one group to another will therefore nullify the
effect of the said previous recognition.
Definitive abandonment of the series-production
The series production is regarded as completely stopped if the monthly rate has
decreased for more than four consecutive months to below 7112th of the minimum
figure required by the Appendix "J" for the minimum production of the group in
which the model is recognized.
Definition of the term "model of car"
By "model of car "is meant all the cars belonging to a prcduction series distinguishable
by a specific conception and specific external general lines of the coachwcrk,
and by an identical mechanical conception of the engine and the transmission to the
wheels.
A modelof car may exist in several variants (for example, different power or engine
cylinder-capacity), which may possibly be the subject of separate recognitions.
However, faking the Art. 2529 as a basis, it must be pointed out that, if the Sub-
Commission for Recognitions has the possibility, for practical reasons, to authorize
the recognition of certain variants of a same car-model in different Groups of cars,
the principle of a simulfaneous recognition of variants of a same model in Groups 1
and 2 (Touring Cars) on the one hand, and in Groups 3,4 and 5 (Grand Touring and
Sport) on the other hand, remains forbidden.
h) Recognition forms: all cars recognized by the FIA shall be the subject
of a descriptive form called recognition form on which shall be entered all data
enabling identification of the said model.
To this effect only the standard recognition forms and standard additional
form for "normal evolution of the type" and "variant" approved by the FIA shall
be used by all ACNs.
The production of the forms at scrutineering and/or at the start may be required
by the promoters who will be entitled to refuse the participation of the entrant in
the event in case of non-production.
In case of any doubt remaining after the checking of a model of car against its
recognition form, the scrutineers would have to refer either to the maintenance
booklet published for the use of the.makels distributors orto the general catalogue
in which are listed all spare parts.
It will rest with the competitor to obtain the recognition form and, if need be,
the additional forms concerning his car, from the ACN of the manufacturing
country of the vehicle.
Whenever the scrutinizing of a car shows the complete compliance of it with its
recognition form, inasmuch as is required for the group in which it is admitted, there
is no need to worry about its year of fabrication.
Therefore, the chassis and engine numbers which may be mentioned on the
recognition form are not to be taken into consideration.
i) Cyiinder-capacity classes: the cars shal! be distributed into the following
13 classes, according to their cylinder-capacity:
1. Cylinder-capacity inferior or equal to 500 cc
2. Cylinder-capacity exceeding 500 cc and inferior or equal to 600 cc
3. . I, I I II 600 CC ,, , I 1 1 I 11 700 cc
4. 1, . I t 1 1 700 CC ,, : 1, 1, 11 850 CC
5. 1, 11 I, 850 CC l, ,, 9 1 1 , 1, 1,000 CC
6. 1, 1 1 9 1 1,000 CC 1, 1, 1, 1. ,l 1,150 CC
7. 1, v I 1, 1,150 CC 1, l, l, S, ll30O CC
8. 9 , $1 1, 1,300 CC 1, 1, 1, 1, 11 1,600 CC
9. l, v , ,, 1,600 cc ,, !I ,, ,l I, 2,000 cc
10. ,, I I ,, 2,000 CC ,, ,, 2,500 cc
11. ,, l 1 ,, 2,500 CC ,, ,I l* If l# 3,000 CC
12. ,, 9 1 ii 3,000 CC 1, ,, 11 1, 11 5,000 CC
13. 1 , 19 ,, 5,000 CC
Regulations intended for specific events may provide one or several subdivisions
of class 13. There shall be no sub-division of the other classes.
The above mentioned classification will apply only to non-supercharged
engines.
Unless otherwise specified in special provisions set up by the FIA for a certain
category of events, the organizers are not bound to include all the above mentioned
classes in the supplementary regulations, and, furthermore they are free
to group two or more consecutive classes, according to the particular circumstances
of their events.
j) Formulae of equivalence between reciprocating piston engines and
special engines.
Rotary piston engines: cars with rotary piston engines covered by the NSUWankel
patents will be admitted on the basis of a piston displacement equivalence.
This equivalence is twice the volume determined by the difference between
the maximum and minimum capacity of the working-chamber.
Turbine engines: cars propelled by a turbine engine will be admitted on the
basis of a formula of equivalence with regard to alternating piston engines. This
formula is the following:
C X 0.09625
A=
(3.10 X R) - 7.63
A=High-pressure nozzle area-expressed in square centimetres by which is
meant the area of the air-flow at the exit from the stator blades (or at the exit
from the first stage if the stator has several stages). Measurement is done
by taking the minimum area between the fixed blades of the high pressure
turbine first stage. In cases where the first stage turbine stator blades are
adjustable, they will open to their greatest extent to present the greatest
area for the determination of area, "A".
The area of the high pressure nozzle is thus the product-expressed in
square centimetres-of height by width and by the number of vane spaces.
C=Cylinder-capacity of reciprocating piston engine expressed in cubic centimetres.
R= The pressure ratio i.e. the ratio of the compressor of the turbine engine. This
pressure ratio is obtained by multiplying together a value for each stage of
the compressor, as indicated hereafter:
Subsonic axial compressor=1.15 per stage.
Trans-sonic axial compressor=1.5 per stage.
Radial compressor=4.25 per stage.
Thus a compressor with one radial and six axial stages will be designated to
have a pressure ratio of:
4.25x 1.15~1 .15~1 .15~1 .15~1 .15~1. 15 or 4.25~1 .158.
The CS1 reserve their right to modify the basis of comparison established
between conventional type engines and new type engines, while giving a previous
notice of one year to start from January Ist, following the date on which the
decision was made.
k) Supercharging: if the engine of a car includes a separate device used for
supercharging it, the nominal cylinder-capacity will be multiplied by 1.4 and the
car will pass into the class corresponding to the fictive volume thus obtained.
The new cylinder-capacity of the car shall always be considered as the real one.
This shall particularly be the case for assigning the car to its cylinder-capacity
class, and the car will be treated in all respects as if its cylinder-capacity thus
increased was its real capacity. Especially in regard to its classification per
cylinder-capacity class, its inside dimensions, its minimum number of seats, etc.
A dynamic air inlet for ducting the air from the atmosphere into the engine
intake will not be considered as a supercharging device.
I) Coachwork: by coachwork is meant: - externally: all parts of the car licked by the air-stream and situated above a
plane passing through the centre of the wheel hubs.
- internally: all visible parts of the passenger compartment.
Coachworks are differentiated as follows:
1) completely closed coachworks,
2) completely open coachworks,
3) convertible coachworks: with a hood in either supple (drop-head) or rigid
(hard-top) material.
Coachworks of one same minimum series shall be identical with the only
exception of a "sun roof".
However, if a model has its coachwork equipped with a specific number of
doors and has been recognized on the basis of a given minimum series, similar
recognition may be granted to another coachwork with a different number of
doors when its minimum production reaches 50% of the figure necessary for
recognition of the basic series, providing that both models have the following
common characteristics:
1) a coachwork of similar shape, i.e. of which the general appearance is
basically the same and which has not been modified beyond what is
necessary to change from a four door version to a two door version (or
vice-versa) ;
2) exactly identical mechanical parts;
3) the same wheelbase, track and number of seats;
4) at least the same weight:
5) an FIA decision to recognize this variant coachwork and to draw up an
additional "variant" recognition form.
As far as convertible cars are concerned, these must comply in all respects
with the specifications applying to closed cars if they run an event under this
form, or with the specifications concerning open cars if they run with the hood
down or the hardtop removed.
m) Use of aerodynamic devices on cars of groups 5, 6, 7 and international
racing formulae: in interpreting Art 252(1), shall definitely be considered
as coachwork all external parts of the. car which extend above the highest point
of either the front or rear wheels (with tyres) with the exception of units definitely
associated with the functioning of the engine or transmission and the anti-roll
bar.
Any specific part of the car which has an aerodynamic influence on the
stability of the vehicle must be mounted on the entirely sprung part of the car and
shall be firmly fixed whilst the car is in motion.
Neither the safety roil bar, nor any of the units associated with the functioning
of the engine or transmission shall have an aerodynamic effect by creating a
vertical thrust.
All external projections swinging in a horizontal plane shall have a minimum
radius of 1.5 cm. The leading edge of any aerofoil fixed to the front of the car shall
not be sharp.
n) Minimum weight: is the real minimum weight of the empty car (without
persons or luggage aboard) fully equipped and ready for delivery to the purchaser.
It shall consequently include a spare-wheel equipped with a tyre similar to those
mounted on at least 2 of the 4 wheels, and all the accessories normally mounted
on the least expensive.model of the series concerned being removed, except for
the normally supplied repair kit (jack, tool-kit). All liquid tanks (of lubrication,
cooling system, braking, heating system, if need be), except for the fuel tank,
must be full.
The minimum weight of the car mentioned on the recognition form shall be
strictly respected. Any lightening of the car by removal or replacement of parts,
aiming at reducing its weight, is prohibited.
Art. 253.-Prescriptions common to all cars of categories A and B.
a) Chassis, ground-clearance, steering lock: the car, supplied with
enough fuel for starting the event, its oil and water tanks fuil, must be able to
drive over-under the power of its engine and with its driver at the steering-wheel
-a mass of 85x 80 cm and l0 cm high.
The maximum steering radius shall be 6.75 m which means that the car must
be able to make a complete turn in both directions without the wheels going
beyond two parallel lines drawn on the ground 13.50 m apart.
b) Coachwork: minimum inside dimensions and minimum number of seats:
cars shall be equipped with a minimum of two seats or a minimum of four seats
according to the group in which they seek recognition and, within a same group,
according to their engine cylinder-capacity.
For each group specified in these regulations, the minimum number of seats
is listed hereafter and the minimum inside dimensions for both cases are indicated
in the following paragraphs.
1st case (see diagram 1): car equipped with 4 or (more) seats.
The height at the front (B) is measured between the lowest point of the front
seat cushion compressed by a standard mass of 60 kgs (see diagram 2) and the
ceiling (the padding if any, may be compressed). Should the backrest of the front
seat(s) be inclined backwards, the protected height must also be measured at
the same angle as the inclination of the backrest.
- If the front seats are separate, the measurement is made in the middle of the
two seats. In case of adjustable front seats, the seats will be placed in medium
position. - If there is a common front seat, the measurement is made at 25 cm from the
centre line of the car.
The height at the back (D) is measured between the cushion of the rear seat,
compressed by the standard mass, and the ceiling (the padding,-if any, may be
compressed) at 25 cm from the centre line of the car. Should the backrest of the
rear seat be inclined backwards, the protected height must also be measured at
the same angle as the inclination of the backrest.
The width over the front seats (C) is measured along the vertical plane passing
through the centre of the standard mass, 30 cm above the compressed seat, and
between the upper strip of each front door.
The width over the back seats (E) is measured along the vertical plane passing
through the centre of the standard mass, 30 cm above the compressed seat and
between the upper strip of each back door, or at the same height as for the front
seats when there are no rear doors.
NB: Definition of t h e w i d t h C and E as from 1st January 1972.
The two above paragraphs will be modified as follows as from 1st January 1972:
The width over the front seats (C) is measured along the vertical plane passing
through the centre of the standard mass placed on the seat. The width must be
freely maintained over a height of at least 25 cm.
The width over the rear seats (E) is measured along the vertical plane passing
through the centre of the standard mass. The width must be freely maintained
over a height of at least 25 cm.

[Advance Racing]

Сообщение от Ligier

Да не в том дело что дотошный
Если остался тот же регламент, тот как машины превратились в этих монстров

Регламенты выложил ))
А в монстров превратились, потому что вместо 400 машин, надо было в год 25 сделать. Требования как были - "Силуэт" и ограничения по мотору, так и остались

[madlopt]

Сообщение от Advance Racing

Леш у нас такое же в Туапсе, Сочи и на Байкале проводят и неплохо без штурманов все обходятся. А на Солох-Ауле если что метров 70 лететь

Да знаю я, что ты себя любишь.

[Ligier]

Сообщение от Advance Racing

Регламенты выложил ))
А в монстров превратились, потому что вместо 400 машин, надо было в год 25 сделать. Требования как были - "Силуэт" и ограничения по мотору, так и остались

Да.С регламентом всё верно по ходу.
Всё конечно полный привод изменил на заре 80-х...